President Donald Trump’s private lawyer Rudy Guiliani defended his consumer’s use of data hacked by a international adversary to disparage his 2016 political rival, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, saying: “it was all true.”

Guiliani, the previous mayor of New York Metropolis who represented Trump all through Particular Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, gave an interview with NBC’s Meet the Press on Sunday to debate the probe’s remaining report, which was launched in redacted kind on Thursday.

When requested by host Chuck Todd why the president “trumpeted” info shared by WikiLeaks, despite the fact that these stolen paperwork had been supplied to the group by Russian hackers, Guiliani argued it was no totally different than utilizing every other leaked info.

Throughout the section, Todd additionally confronted Guiliani about Donald Trump Jr.’s lack of transparency about being supplied “dust” on Clinton straight by the Russians. Guiliani responded by asking: “I’m wondering if there isn’t an argument that the individuals had a proper to know that details about Hillary Clinton?”

Earlier in the interview, Todd read a portion directly from Mueller’s report, which said: “The investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”

Guiliani pushed back against this claim, saying he, as someone who had worked on the campaign, saw “no evidence” of anyone talking about Russia, “I knew it was a false accusation,” the former federal prosecutor asserted. But, he argued, there was nothing wrong with Trump using the information published by WikiLeaks.

“They were putting out things that were true and very, very damaging to Hillary Clinton,” he said.

“Everything they put out about Hillary Clinton was true,” the lawyer continued. “In other words, they didn’t make things up. They shouldn’t have stolen it. But the American people were just given more information about how deceptive, how manipulative her people, her campaign were,” he said.

“In other words, if the Russians had stolen the information, and it showed Hillary Clinton to be just a wonderful person and everybody was fine, they were all honest, they were all terrific, it would have helped her,” he argued. “If it hurt at all, it hurt her because the American people got information that was gotten in the wrong way, but it all was true.”

GettyImages-624664028 Former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and president-elect Donald Trump head into the clubhouse for their meeting at Trump International Golf Club on November 20, 2016 in Bedminster Township, New Jersey Drew Angerer/Getty Images

Although Trump and his supporters have argued that Mueller’s conclusions are a “complete exoneration” of the president, the report itself states the opposite. Whereas the investigators didn’t set up that Trump or his marketing campaign conspired with Russia through the 2016 election, it didn’t conclude whether or not or not the president obstructed justice by interfering within the investigation. It additionally identified that the probe’s conclusions may have doubtlessly been totally different if marketing campaign officers had not deleted some info and had cooperated absolutely.

The report did conclude that Russia interfered within the election primarily to disparage Clinton and to help Trump. Russian hackers labored with WikiLeaks to launch a slew of emails and paperwork that exposed particulars that made Clinton look dangerous within the eyes of many citizens.

Trump repeatedly praised WikiLeaks all through his marketing campaign, typically citing the group in his marketing campaign occasions and on Twitter. “Russia, should you’re listening, I hope you are capable of finding the 30,000 emails which can be lacking,” Trump infamously said throughout a marketing campaign rally in July 2016.

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